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		<title>By: The Nervous Breakdown</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-2461</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] one Korean American openly gay writer I could think of--my Wesleyan professor Kit Reed even said, &quot;If you move quickly, you&#039;ll be the first.&quot; And I now I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one Korean American openly gay writer I could think of&#8211;my Wesleyan professor Kit Reed even said, &quot;If you move quickly, you&#39;ll be the first.&quot; And I now I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: When to Get Your MFA. Or Not. [Part 2] &#171; Koreanish</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-2420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When to Get Your MFA. Or Not. [Part 2] &#171; Koreanish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Korean American openly gay writer I could think of&#8211;my Wesleyan professor Kit Reed even said, &#8220;If you move quickly, you&#8217;ll be the first.&#8221; And I now I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Korean American openly gay writer I could think of&#8211;my Wesleyan professor Kit Reed even said, &#8220;If you move quickly, you&#8217;ll be the first.&#8221; And I now I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nmyers</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1826</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have just stumbled upon this blog, and, being both a Wesleyan grad (class of 2005), and someone who has lived in Korea as a gay (albeit &#039;foreign&#039;) man, I felt inclined to comment on &#039;Gay in Korea&#039;s post.

First of all, I read your book when I was an undergrad at Wesleyan and thought it was fantastic.  It was inspiring to read as a queer aspiring writer.  While I haven&#039;t been writing so much lately, I still recommend the book to my friends.

As for life in Korea as a gay man, I hardly agree with the &#039;Gay in Korea&#039;s post.  Visibility is extremely low, far lower than anywhere I&#039;ve ever been in America.  People are homophobic, but this is through ignorance, which, via lack of visibility, can be even more dangerous than violent homophobia.  This is not my point. My point is that Korean mainstream society is not accepting or even acknowledging of gay culture or existence.  Regarding Hong Seok-Cheon, he was forced to resign from his job when he came out and only recently has been back in media spotlight.  I sat in on a queer-themed movie at the Jeonju International Film Festival in 2007, during which the (mostly Korean) crowd gasped and laughed when the story&#039;s two main characters would show any affection (as I recall, the two shared a peck, no more, in terms of physical affection.)  Last fall, within a week of each other, two recently outed celebrities (one model, one transsexual) committed suicide, largely thought because of mass criticism and hate mail received by members of the Korean public.  So, maybe people don&#039;t get killed in Korea, but they are pressured to kill themselves.  Hardly better, I would say.

Lastly, compare the numbers and activities at a Pride rally or parade in Seoul to that in, say, Seattle, where I live now.  Men marching in the Seoul parade wear masks to hide their identities, and hardly a few hundred people show up.  Then, only at 2am in the hidden &#039;Homo Hill&#039; in Itaewon, do the men take off the masks to drink and party.   This is completely foreign to a pride festival in the States, where thousands upon thousands of people show up to show support.

I&#039;m also curious about the words &#039;Gay in Korea&#039; talked about that mean &#039;gay&#039; in Korean.  I am familiar with a few, the first being &#039;iban,&#039; which, literally, means &#039;second class.&#039;  Then there is &#039;homo&#039; and &#039;gei,&#039; which are merely transliterations of English words.  The word whose hanja, or Chinese characters, mean &#039;homosexual,&#039; is &#039;dongsaengae,&#039; and never once, after living in Korea for three years, did I hear this word used in the context of a conversation.

I wanted to submit my thoughts, because, to be honest, after living in several places around the world, I had never been so stifled as a gay man as I was in Korea.

All that being said, I love Korea.  I am pursuing a Master&#039;s in Korea Studies, and none of this is meant to be Korea bashing at all.  I simply felt it necessary to put in my two cents regarding homosexuality in Korea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just stumbled upon this blog, and, being both a Wesleyan grad (class of 2005), and someone who has lived in Korea as a gay (albeit &#8216;foreign&#8217;) man, I felt inclined to comment on &#8216;Gay in Korea&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>First of all, I read your book when I was an undergrad at Wesleyan and thought it was fantastic.  It was inspiring to read as a queer aspiring writer.  While I haven&#8217;t been writing so much lately, I still recommend the book to my friends.</p>
<p>As for life in Korea as a gay man, I hardly agree with the &#8216;Gay in Korea&#8217;s post.  Visibility is extremely low, far lower than anywhere I&#8217;ve ever been in America.  People are homophobic, but this is through ignorance, which, via lack of visibility, can be even more dangerous than violent homophobia.  This is not my point. My point is that Korean mainstream society is not accepting or even acknowledging of gay culture or existence.  Regarding Hong Seok-Cheon, he was forced to resign from his job when he came out and only recently has been back in media spotlight.  I sat in on a queer-themed movie at the Jeonju International Film Festival in 2007, during which the (mostly Korean) crowd gasped and laughed when the story&#8217;s two main characters would show any affection (as I recall, the two shared a peck, no more, in terms of physical affection.)  Last fall, within a week of each other, two recently outed celebrities (one model, one transsexual) committed suicide, largely thought because of mass criticism and hate mail received by members of the Korean public.  So, maybe people don&#8217;t get killed in Korea, but they are pressured to kill themselves.  Hardly better, I would say.</p>
<p>Lastly, compare the numbers and activities at a Pride rally or parade in Seoul to that in, say, Seattle, where I live now.  Men marching in the Seoul parade wear masks to hide their identities, and hardly a few hundred people show up.  Then, only at 2am in the hidden &#8216;Homo Hill&#8217; in Itaewon, do the men take off the masks to drink and party.   This is completely foreign to a pride festival in the States, where thousands upon thousands of people show up to show support.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also curious about the words &#8216;Gay in Korea&#8217; talked about that mean &#8216;gay&#8217; in Korean.  I am familiar with a few, the first being &#8216;iban,&#8217; which, literally, means &#8216;second class.&#8217;  Then there is &#8216;homo&#8217; and &#8216;gei,&#8217; which are merely transliterations of English words.  The word whose hanja, or Chinese characters, mean &#8216;homosexual,&#8217; is &#8216;dongsaengae,&#8217; and never once, after living in Korea for three years, did I hear this word used in the context of a conversation.</p>
<p>I wanted to submit my thoughts, because, to be honest, after living in several places around the world, I had never been so stifled as a gay man as I was in Korea.</p>
<p>All that being said, I love Korea.  I am pursuing a Master&#8217;s in Korea Studies, and none of this is meant to be Korea bashing at all.  I simply felt it necessary to put in my two cents regarding homosexuality in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: koreanish</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1763</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gay In Korea: Thanks for sending an update to the colonies. It&#039;s interesting to hear all of this. A lot of it is what I suspected, especially your first point.

And thanks for commenting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay In Korea: Thanks for sending an update to the colonies. It&#8217;s interesting to hear all of this. A lot of it is what I suspected, especially your first point.</p>
<p>And thanks for commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Gay in Korea</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gay in Korea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more thing... I hear this Korean gay sex thing being superior comment a lot. I knew all these &quot;love hotels&quot; (the number of beds available for rent in this country is surely some Guiness Book-type level) that have no vacancies on Saturday nights had to mean something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing&#8230; I hear this Korean gay sex thing being superior comment a lot. I knew all these &#8220;love hotels&#8221; (the number of beds available for rent in this country is surely some Guiness Book-type level) that have no vacancies on Saturday nights had to mean something.</p>
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		<title>By: Gay in Korea</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gay in Korea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Korean gay person living in Korea, and I&#039;ve always felt that Korean Americans were much more conservative than Koreans in Korea, probably because their picture of Korea stops right after they immigrate to wherever it is they immigrate to... no gays in Korea, or no visibility for gay people in Korea, well that&#039;s a laugh. &quot;Antique&quot; was hardly revolutionary, it wasn&#039;t even close to controversial... &quot;The King and the Clown&quot; which depicts a homosexual relationship between, well, a king and a clown, became the highest grossing Korean film EVER just a couple of years ago (record has been reset since). And that was hardly the first gay movie... or the last! Homosexuality is actually considered a cliched subject now, and there is much more of it in mainstream Korean film than in mainstream American film. Even before that there was Harisu, the transgendered celebrity, who is still very active today... Hong Seok Chun, who was outed, but who runs several restaurants and has a book out... this holding a funeral thing has never happened to any of my outed or out friends. Parents these days tend to just get used to the idea, eventually. I was much more depressed about being gay in Puritan America than in Korea, where yes, we DO have words, some of them older than the word &quot;gay,&quot; that mean gay. And the homophobia in the US is actually VIOLENT... no one in Korea gets killed for being gay a la Matthew Shepard. Korea isn&#039;t perfect, but I would much rather be gay in Korea than gay in America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Korean gay person living in Korea, and I&#8217;ve always felt that Korean Americans were much more conservative than Koreans in Korea, probably because their picture of Korea stops right after they immigrate to wherever it is they immigrate to&#8230; no gays in Korea, or no visibility for gay people in Korea, well that&#8217;s a laugh. &#8220;Antique&#8221; was hardly revolutionary, it wasn&#8217;t even close to controversial&#8230; &#8220;The King and the Clown&#8221; which depicts a homosexual relationship between, well, a king and a clown, became the highest grossing Korean film EVER just a couple of years ago (record has been reset since). And that was hardly the first gay movie&#8230; or the last! Homosexuality is actually considered a cliched subject now, and there is much more of it in mainstream Korean film than in mainstream American film. Even before that there was Harisu, the transgendered celebrity, who is still very active today&#8230; Hong Seok Chun, who was outed, but who runs several restaurants and has a book out&#8230; this holding a funeral thing has never happened to any of my outed or out friends. Parents these days tend to just get used to the idea, eventually. I was much more depressed about being gay in Puritan America than in Korea, where yes, we DO have words, some of them older than the word &#8220;gay,&#8221; that mean gay. And the homophobia in the US is actually VIOLENT&#8230; no one in Korea gets killed for being gay a la Matthew Shepard. Korea isn&#8217;t perfect, but I would much rather be gay in Korea than gay in America.</p>
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		<title>By: noseycow</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1731</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think its great to be different, the rest of us have to try real hard to stand out!! LOL ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its great to be different, the rest of us have to try real hard to stand out!! LOL <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: koreanish</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koreanish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heather: Ha. Yes, perhaps, say, in one of my own making...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather: Ha. Yes, perhaps, say, in one of my own making&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, it sounds like you are ripe for being mythologized in a comic book or graphic novel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it sounds like you are ripe for being mythologized in a comic book or graphic novel.</p>
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		<title>By: koreanish</title>
		<link>http://koreanish.com/2009/01/06/the-one-and-only/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koreanish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jane: Yeah. I feel pretty calm. It is melancholy, but ...fine for now. Thanks for calling me a pioneer. 

JP: I&#039;d forgotten about those. 

The thing is, Korean men are very affectionate with each other. When I first went to Korea, I thought everyone there was gay. Affection between the sexes there is frowned upon, but not between friends and family of the same sex. So you often see friends holding hands as they walk down the street. 

T: That&#039;s amazing. Thanks for the info, and for your recent comments, which have been great. I&#039;ll definitely check those out. I know there&#039;s been other signs that the culture is warming to it. But I also know that Korea has changed more in the last 70 years than it has in the last 700, and that there are many who believe in the old ways, with a great deal of strength.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane: Yeah. I feel pretty calm. It is melancholy, but &#8230;fine for now. Thanks for calling me a pioneer. </p>
<p>JP: I&#8217;d forgotten about those. </p>
<p>The thing is, Korean men are very affectionate with each other. When I first went to Korea, I thought everyone there was gay. Affection between the sexes there is frowned upon, but not between friends and family of the same sex. So you often see friends holding hands as they walk down the street. </p>
<p>T: That&#8217;s amazing. Thanks for the info, and for your recent comments, which have been great. I&#8217;ll definitely check those out. I know there&#8217;s been other signs that the culture is warming to it. But I also know that Korea has changed more in the last 70 years than it has in the last 700, and that there are many who believe in the old ways, with a great deal of strength.</p>
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